{"id":1628,"date":"2010-08-20T17:14:17","date_gmt":"2010-08-20T21:14:17","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.credittrends.com\/blog\/?p=1628"},"modified":"2010-08-21T11:16:05","modified_gmt":"2010-08-21T15:16:05","slug":"when-will-analysts-learn","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.credittrends.com\/blog\/2010\/08\/20\/when-will-analysts-learn\/","title":{"rendered":"When Will Analysts Learn?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: center;\">HEADLINE ON HEWLETT-PACKARD<\/p>\n<p><strong>Hewlett-Packard (<a href=\"http:\/\/seekingalpha.com\/symbol\/hpq?source=search_general&amp;s=hpq\">HPQ<\/a>: $39.72, $-1.0400,-2.55%) is down after Morgan Stanley (<a href=\"http:\/\/seekingalpha.com\/symbol\/ms?source=search_general&amp;s=ms\">MS<\/a>) says the company needs more aggressive buybacks to boost shares, Bloomberg reports. Morgan Stanley cut its price target to $56 from $62.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>If this is a true representation as to how this analyst feels, it speaks poorly as to the state of current day security analysis.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.credittrends.com\/blog\/2010\/08\/20\/when-will-analysts-learn\/2\/\"><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">READ FULL ARTICLE<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<p><!--nextpage--><\/p>\n<p>It was just a month ago when reporters wrote of the \u201cpop\u201d in GE (<a href=\"http:\/\/seekingalpha.com\/symbol\/ge?source=search_general&amp;s=ge\">GE<\/a>) shares following that firm\u2019s large buyback announcement.<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>General Electric shares gained for a third consecutive session as investors continued to celebrate the sprawling conglomerate\u2019s decision to increase its dividend and launch a share buyback.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Source: Wall Street Journal, July 27, 2010<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Look at it since\u2014GE stock is now underperforming the S&amp;P 500 Index since the $15 billion buyback announcement:<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.credittrends.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/08\/GE-verus-SP-500-Index.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-1629 aligncenter lazyload\" title=\"GE verus S&amp;P 500 Index\" data-src=\"http:\/\/www.credittrends.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/08\/GE-verus-SP-500-Index-300x217.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"217\" src=\"data:image\/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAAAAACH5BAEKAAEALAAAAAABAAEAAAICTAEAOw==\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 300px; --smush-placeholder-aspect-ratio: 300\/217;\" \/><noscript><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-1629 aligncenter\" title=\"GE verus S&amp;P 500 Index\" src=\"http:\/\/www.credittrends.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/08\/GE-verus-SP-500-Index-300x217.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"217\" \/><\/noscript><\/a><\/p>\n<p>If I were the supervisor of that HPQ analyst I would have him prove to me why an increase in accounting ratios such as P\/E or return on equity, with no commensurate rise in free cash flow or return above that currently forecasted would result in a higher share price\u2014it never has and never will\u2014ask the people at IBM (<a href=\"http:\/\/seekingalpha.com\/symbol\/ibm?source=search_general&amp;s=ibm\">IBM<\/a>), Macy\u2019s (<a href=\"http:\/\/seekingalpha.com\/symbol\/m?source=search_general&amp;s=m\">M<\/a>), Home Depot (<a href=\"http:\/\/seekingalpha.com\/symbol\/hd?source=search_general&amp;s=hd\">HD<\/a>), or those financial institutions which bought back several hundred billion dollars worth of stock prior to the credit meltdown.<\/p>\n<p>Related Articles:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.credittrends.com\/blog\/2010\/08\/03\/new-era-of-buybacks-dividends-and-mergers\/\">New Era of Buybacks, Dividends and Mergers<\/a>?<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.credittrends.com\/blog\/2010\/07\/19\/return-of-the-%e2%80%9chostile%e2%80%9d-takeover\/\">Return of the \u201cHostile\u201d Takeover?<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.credittrends.com\/blog\/2010\/07\/27\/why-it-would-be-unwise-for-firms-to-boost-dividends\/\">Why It Would Be Unwise For Firms to Boost Dividends<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.credittrends.com\/blog\/2010\/07\/15\/the-folly-of-stock-buybacks\/\">The Folly of Share Buybacks<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.credittrends.com\/blog\/2010\/07\/20\/the-folly-of-stock-buybacks-part-ii\/\">The Folly of Stock Buybacks-Part II<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.credittrends.com\/blog\/2010\/07\/16\/cfos-making-the-same-mistake-again-stock-buybacks\/\">CFOs Making the Same Mistake Again-Stock Buybacks<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Disclosure: No positions<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.credittrends.com\/blog\/about\/\">Kenneth S. 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